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May 8, 2017 at 9:06 am #15513
There’s only one way for you to prove that this whole thing isn’t fake. Make a video explaining your thesis, the algorithms that you used and how you applied it to whatever programming language you are using to generate these “BOOKS”, prove us in a mathematical way that randomly generating some gibberish letters from a-zA-Z changing the order could actually generate a perfect result such as “Ya’ll my nigga’s nigga!” that would appear in a page full of random gibberish letters.
“An extra ordinary claim requires an extra ordinary proof.”
Something inside me tells me that this is actually plausible but I am looking for a proof because if this is true? you literally found a way to dig all the knowledge in the world all you have to do is search for it.June 3, 2017 at 5:04 pm #16450
@joshmorris yes all you see is gibberish but if you look for a very long time you will find what you typed in surrounded by other English words. And if you click the Anglish button you should be able to find English words on most pages, but it’s very few that are entirely English. And by very few I mean a lot but in comparison to the rest. It’s not just inserted. You just haven’t looked long enough. Go to the browse section and enter some combination of letters and numbers. Go to let’s say… Page 365 in that book. Click the Anglish button. If you read that chances are you’ll see some Engish words. If it doesn’t work do it ten times and report shelf numbers, book names, and hex number back to me because that’s extremely unlikely.June 22, 2017 at 10:51 am #16905
Every search that appears after I hit enter is always, without fail, in the centre of the page.June 24, 2017 at 9:20 am #16951
then RTFMJuly 8, 2017 at 8:35 am #17320
I am certain that I cannot find locations of browsed books anywhere online. So it appears to be unable to provide research for any researcher. As I click the website’s, “Reference Hex” section. I find myself lost for the fact that I cannot use the Library of Babel to find the listed information in this section:
“For a passage from your favorite book, or something you yourself have written.
Search for alternate scenes and endings.
If you have writer’s block, search for the last word or sentence fragment you’ve written, and find out how it ends.”
What are your ways of going about this?July 16, 2017 at 4:48 pm #17395
JimBo the redneck
If anyone want’s the simple pseudo code for generating every book out there I can give it. It isn’t greek fire. It’s almost certainly not what this website uses, but it does prove that the theory is sound. The website most likely (I haven’t spent the time nor will I) uses workarounds much like the game Elite did a long time ago to store everything.
The simple pseudo code would be to create an array with all the characters you want included then
for(a = 0; a < arraySize; a++)
for(b = 0; b < arraySize; b++)
for(c=0; c < arraySize; c++)
…this would continue on to a1, b1, a2 until you have enough loops to equal the size of book you are generating for and then you would store in a string the array values in order
string = charArray[a]+charArray[b]+… and voila, after your computer has run for like a milllion years you will have stored every available book of that size on your giant hard drive.
Note that a, b, c, a1, b1… don’t stand for actual letters but are simply variables to hold the position in your character array that is being referenced.
There are certainly more efficient ways you could code it, and if you understand the math, you could do away with all the storage ( and even the generation ) and simply jump to one of the loops that would have generated your string and display it. Generating the books and storing them would not be required. You are creating the result as it’s ask for in a way, but you are doing it by going to the a place where it would have been generated and figuring out the state of the loops that would have been required to generate it.
To put it in another example, I could store every possible 3 digit addition problem and it’s answer, or I could simply take the answer you are asking for and mathematically determine a math problem that would have generated that answer. You can then reference it every time and if you use the seed that was used when it generated it, it will regenerate it exactly.
If you are still unsure about all this, look up the original Elite space game and how it stored it’s galaxies. The method was completely predictable and reproducible so much that they didn’t have to store level information and everyone played the exact same world.
The problem with this is the assumption that these books are actually stored somewhere on a physical hard drive and that some computer really crunched the numbers to create the books. I would guess this isn’t the case (probably provable if you want to do the math on calculation iterations and reference known cpu speeds and how long it would take to compute that many books). It just works backward to determine at what point in the generation your book would have been created.
Since the programming is simple, that also explains why no one has done this and copyrighted the books. They don’t exist in a physical storage space and are instead referenced by algorithm so to speak. I know that some wouldn’t copyright all this for altruistic reasons, but with the concept being so simple, someone would. You can also see that they aren’t being requisitioned from a physical storage because the searches are quite fast. Searching through that many books for a things would surely take longer.