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    Ray

    oops, wrong post. Oh well, that’s the explanation for the image archive anyway.

    #13244 Reply

    miguel89

    Since you gravedug this thread I got to reading it.

    Zeth Matthews on February 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    If this algorithm truly never creates duplicates, then Iā€™m pleased with this method.

    That’s the assumption everyone probably has, but it does create duplicates. I don’t think that’s explained on the theory pages. (Someone argued that the original story only promises no duplicate books, but it seems to me the idea on this website is just to have every unique page. Otherwise the hex string would probably have to include at least 3200*410 characters.)

    But yeah, that’s the small thing that disappoints my brain. That it’s probably impossible for the algorithm to be elegant enough that the library has every page but doesn’t have duplicate pages. And that’s because the order of the pages has to be random to keep it interesting.

    But I think this is the closest approximation you can get to a Library of Babel without making it impossibly complicated.

    #14015 Reply

    Jan

    To everyone who says it’s fake and whatnot, it’s not fake. Actually it’s a pretty simple maths concept.

    Now, this Library of Babel may contain duplicates, but there for sure is a way to make it without duplicates. You can simply make it so the first book is “aaaaaaa…” and the second is “aaaaaaa…b” and so on. Basically it has to be in alphabetical order.

    Actually I’m working on making this library myself as a programming exercise and I’m almost completely finished.

    I can’t give you the code, but basically it works by representing each book as a base-29 number (29 because of the 29 characters). It converts the text to a number and that number is the ordinal number of that book in the library. Then you convert the ordinal back to the room, shelve, book and page numbers and you got the address. This can be done the other way around.

    In other words the address of the book is defined by it’s text, there is a connection between the text and the address and that’s why you can convert one to another without much effort.

    If you don’t believe me, you can look at this GitHub repo which has an Open-Source repo of a simple implementation in Python. The code is all there. You can look at it and reassure yourself that it is in fact possible and read.

    The repo is here: https://github.com/cakenggt/Library-Of-Pybel

    #14016 Reply

    Jan

    And BTW, my previous post doesn’t prove that this is not a hoax, but it DOES prove that making this library real IS POSSIBLE and therefore makes this website UNLIKELY to be a hoax. If you want more info on how it works you can email me at janek.muric@gmail.com

    #14037 Reply

    messiah

    hory shet, dat’s an e-mail address. enjoy your penis enlargement spams!

    #14046 Reply

    Jan

    I don’t think that people who browse the library of babel would care to send me spam šŸ˜›

    #14054 Reply

    messiah

    web crawlers, however, can gather it easily.

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