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January 30, 2017 at 3:20 pm #12307
your question is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too complicated to answer easily. first u should accept that with overwhelming probability you’ll get a bunch of characters that you can identify as random (not true random, and not even near to it, but you CAN identify). because your language skills contain english, and possibly german, french, maybe even finnish, you are assuming what you see as random and meaningless text. let’s roll a random page! if there pre-existed some language in which that page is intelligible, then we are ready, congratulations.
however, with overwhelming probability you’ll roll something ‘nabfizabchzkhjffae..afdgjaeg usagdfedf’.
with a sufficiently gigantic-gigantic-gigantic number of random rolls you might get a page for which the pre-existed language is english. please note that it is still just a random bunch of characters, but you will actually understand it as you own the pre-existed lang.
do u get me m8?January 30, 2017 at 3:45 pm #12309
if you’re a kiddo, indeed, then probably the following explanation makes more sense:
I’ve got a friend, named Fred, who doesn’t speak English at all, however, he is native in Zkkeaffadstrrl. fortunately I can speak both English and Zkkeaffadstrrl. I introduced him into this website, he rolled, and got the following text:
‘somewhere over the rainbow’
he was pretty mad, as this is just a random bunch of characters he can’t understand. I secretly laughed my ass off as I know for sure that its literal translation to Zkkeaffadstrrl is:
note that you can roll the latter, you’ll never identify it as a fragment of sentence in Zkkeaffadstrrl that actually makes sense, so you’ll get mad and roll again.
the overwhelming majority of strings you can roll here will not make any sense in English and in Zkkeaffadstrrl, either.February 22, 2017 at 12:51 pm #12958
I don’t even think this is a clever parlor trick of math, I simply think it’s a pastebin clone with a backstory.May 25, 2017 at 11:00 pm #16212
First 67 verses of Divina Commedia by Dante Alighieri
wall : 4
Shelf : 1
volume : 13
glad to enrich this forumMay 26, 2017 at 12:41 pm #16229
why the hell don’t you paste it with the usual bookmarking?June 3, 2017 at 12:57 am #16428
On a side note, Bibliotecarios? That name sounds pretty…unorthodox. I’ve never really heard of librarians being called bibliocarios.November 3, 2017 at 11:01 pm #22883
I would like some guidance as to browse and locate the things i am searching for
please helpJanuary 15, 2018 at 5:18 am #24085
Here’s my question, and I apologize if this has already been discussed..
What if I did all the leg work required to find the entire Harry Potter series in the library of babel and then shared with you a list of links so that you could read Harry Potter within babel? Wouldn’t you be reading the book for free? Has copyright infringement taken place?
Let’s take it a step further.. what if I write a program that will do the legwork for me? A program that almost instantly navigates Babel and finds the Harry Potter series for me. Then uses each page location to import the story into a reader. Let’s call it the Babel Reader. If the first scenario is legally sound than wouldn’t the second be?
Now imagine a website that completely undermines the ebook industry by allowing you to read a copy written book THROUGH Babel, so long as at least one paid for copy was first used to find the correlating version within Babel. And the links to each page are simply shared as quite simply that; links to pages within Babel.
And as more books are paid for then scanned in and shared, and as this begins to gain traction in popularity, will copyright infringement eventually be considered?
Is the line blurry yet?
Will the library be at fault or the program that makes the searching easy? Or the program that makes the sharing easy? Because if all these ideas are found illegal than so too must the library of Babel itself. Or at least the act of sharing results. Perhaps the SEARCH feature is illegal and only the BROWSE feature would survive this scenario.
I would jog your memory back to the early days of Napster. It’s very invention required leagues of new laws to be written. It was all new territory.
Could this, the library of Babel, be similar?
I mean it couldn’t actually be tolerated if it were to grow in popularity could it? Can you undermine a copyright simply by running a book through an algorithm and reassembling it on the other side?
Key master, have you considered this? And what would you say or do if you found out that entire scores of books were being shared using what you created?
Side note… I just may take it upon myself to do the legwork for one such book, to be the first example.
I don’t mean to ruin a good thing, I mean to follow a thought experiment through to its conclusion the way it ought to be.
The end result will be a lengthy list of links that can be clicked in order to read a copy written book within your library. Any suggestions on which book?
This will bring to light something about your beautiful creation that perhaps , if we are lucky, breaks down the walls of the laws exposing flaws.